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like this from nbc affiliate whdh to see if the nylon bags might have been placed in trash bags on the sidewalk to appear less conspicuous. there are still no suspects, but the fbi is sifting through as many as 2,000 tips and tens of thousands of videos and photographs. president obama will travel to boston tomorrow for an interfaith service to mourn and to pray. he called what happened terrorism. >> this was a han niehaus and cowardly act and given what we now now about what took place, the fbi is investigating it as an act of terrorism. anytime bombs are used to target innocent civilians, it is an act of terror. >> among the dead, 8-year-old martin richard, 29-year-old krystle campbell and the third

victim is a boston university grad student from china whose parents asked her name not be made public. let's get to the latest with pete williams. i want to start with the two photos, the before and after of a bag next to a mailbox. how important are investigators thinking these could be? >> to be determined, i think. they are looking at this picture and similar pictures to see if that's how the bombs were placed. they're sort of contradictory photo evidence here about whether that's where they went because the after doesn't seem to show a lot of damage, but it's quite clear that the bombs themselves were not busted up into little tiny pieces and the pictures we're seeing show some large pictures of the cook er themselves. let me show you right here, you can see the brand name. inok. of one of the pressure cookers and on the pictures that show the batteries, this is a chinese made battery and these are also wires that were made in china. now, that kind of lead is very

important because what they'll do now is to figure out who sells these pressure cooker, where would they have been bought. were they sold in the boston area? what about the wire? are there commonalities? where would you find these things together. the second is to look at all these pictures and video they're getting because they believe the bombs probably weighed about 20 pounds apiece and they think they were carried to the scene in a black nylon duffel bag or backpack or both, one for each device. so they're looking for people who were lugging something that looked heavier than normal and to see if they see them overlapping and at the right time, so that's another active area of inquiry. >> well, pete, the sim pristy of a bomb, it seems to be easily available ingredients that could cost less than $100 and the directions you can get on the

internet, does that in a way make it harder to pinpoint who might have does this? it seems to me not the kinld of bomb with a particular signature. >> yes, that's largely true. although the fact there were these little integrated circuits found in each device, that's a level of sophistication if you will, that takes it into a different direction. now, that may be one of the bags that the bomb was contained in, but we'll probably come to that electric, you can see that's the one i was just showing a moment ago that has the brand name on it. these circuit boards could indicate an electric timer or a remote device. i think they haven't made up their mind yet on which that is, but that's a level, there's one of them. that's a level of of sophistication that's different.

>> thank you for that update and i guess that leaves us with the question, who is is person or persons who built those bombs. officials are working with with a pro file of a likely perpetrator. who would and could do something like this? joining me now is clint van zandt. good morning. >> good morning. >> one of the things we learned about the pressure cooker bomb is that al-qaeda put directions for building one on its most recent edition of inspire magazine. they can also be found on the internet, but neither al-qaeda or any other organization has claimed responsibility. would that lead you to believe that is a lone wolf or disgruntled domestic suspect as opposed to an international terrorist? >> i think you have to keep all options open. it could be a hybrid. take for example in 2011, a former u.s. soldier was arrested in the area of ft. hood texas,

the same area where major nadal hasan committed that terrible act on the military base. this young soldier was arrested because he was assembling two pressure cooker type devices that he was going to target on a u.s. military. the way he was arrested, the same gun store where major hasan bought one of his guns, noticed a large sale of black powder to this young man. they told the authorities, the authorities conducted a search and found these two bombs he was building at the same time. he had been somewhat radicalized and had a copy of inspire magazine that showed how to build this type of device that's readily available on the internet. >> i was listening to morning to mike barnacle, who was from boston and was talking to some folks working here on the investigation and they suggested the placement of the bomb could be a clue.

this terrorist didn't obviously just want to kill people. he was doing it in a place where there would absolutely be thousands of pictures and a lot of videos, both professional and not professional. do you think this person was doing it because they knew it was a place where they would get maximum publicity and if so, how could that play into all this and developing a profile? >> we don't want to give this person too much credit, but we know bomb dogs have been through and had supposedly swept the area. if those dogs were really doing their job, that then would suggest that the bomber or bombers knew the dogs might be coming through, came in behind the dogs and then planted these devices, so again, that if we take that as a possible fact, that suggests some degree of consideration in this. some degree of knowledge of what goes on in these events, some degree of planning, so it would be relatively easy, chris, for

one person to do this, easier for two people, but again, we're looking at a timothy mcveigh and maybe one other person as opposed to a whole group of people. >> clint van zandt, always good to get your perspective on these things. thank you. and now, i want to bring in former oklahoma governor, frank keating. he was governor when the oklahoma city building was bombed, also a former fbi agent, a former prosecutor and head of the atf, so obviously someone with a unique perspective on all of this. good morning. >> good morning, chris. >> it's probably hard for you to believe it's been almost 18 years to the day since the oklahoma city bombing and i'm wondering when you heard about what happened here, what went through your mind? >> you know, it is really sad and you've noted this, is just the repeat horror show of one incident after another from a 17-year-old shooting a child in the face to a theatre killing and college campus killings.

oklahoma city was searing in terms of the numbers. 168 dead. nearly 900 wounded. it was and remains the largest case ever handle led by the fbi. i think brilliantly executed by the way and i'm not trying to wave the flag at my former organization, but i think it was very, very well handled. this one was darkly similar. bombing, innocence, celebrating america. it just, an attack really at the heart and the soul of the country. >> and just to remind folks who don't remember, right after the oklahomaty bombings, that really alert state trooper noticed a car driving by without a license plate, pulled him over and it turned out to be timothy mcveigh although it took a couple of days for law enforcement to put it together. >> the boston police department was one of the early departments to be trained at the oklahoma city, the terrorism institute

for in oklahoma city. i think the boston pd is extr e extremely well led and very sophisticated. the fbi has a field office in boston. you couldn't have a better law enforcement investigative community there. obviously, the good thing and i think mr. van zandt focused on it, is the fact that you had an opportunity hopefully to observe a lot of things a as a result of cameras. that comment about the bomb dogs coming in apparently before the placement of these devices. if each of them are 20 pounds apiece, that's a pretty burly person could handle that. may have been two people like tim mcveigh and one of his associates in oak city. they need a lucky break. state trooper who saw that broken license plate, but we've got to get to the bottom of it. we will and whoever's responsible will be tried and convicted and i think

mercifully, hopefully, if they are responsible for this horrific act, will be executed d as we did tim mcveigh. >> do you think as clint just sukted, this may well will a timothy mcveigh type? >> it's really hard to say. i'm one who thinks and this is not a cynical statement, but i think most people act and react with a motive. and this could be a situation where someone's trying to get even with the boston marathon. real simple motive. it could be someone who is mad at boston, mad at the police department, mad at runners. who knows. but that's what investigators do. they go through the international connection potentially, the domestic potential, obviously in the case of tim mcveigh, it was to get even for the branch di individual yan compound, the attack there by atf, fbi, some years before to get even. so, that was the motive and hopefully, this investigation find a motive and find the

responsible parties and quickly this this behind us. but it's just a horror show. seems like every week, something horrific is happening and it's very sad. >> and the flip side is how amazingly so many people responded in that moment and since then and you got high marks, 17, 18 years ago for being instrumental in helping oklahoma city recover. one of the things you did is raet created a trust fund to pay for funerals, to help families. are there things you learned back then through that hard won experience, governor, that you think could help the people of boston even so soon after this terrible tragedy? >> i think boston has shown very good leadership from the police chief to the agent in charge to the fbi, the governor. that's very important. to be reassuring. one of the suggestions i would have is to have a memorial service, religious service, focus in on the frayed and wounded. spiritually. you're going to have that tomorrow apparently and i think that's a very good thing. but the one thing we learned, chris, was that even today, 18

years after the fact, we are still providing counseling to a number of people, particularly first responders and law enforcement types, there will be a need for that for some time. and what's also important since there are people from all over the united states who participated, to have the boston authorities, whatever institution they'll establish there to be in touch with these people, to help them through this very difficult process. but frequently, the emotions don't even show for months or years and the authorities here need to be focused on the need to provide those counseling services, support, hand holding for quite some time, unfortunately. >> former governor frank keating, we always appreciate you coming on the program. thank you so much. >> thanks, chris. >> coming up in our next half hour, we will talk to the former new york governor who led that state during the september 11th attacks and what a moving scene

last night. that is the hometown of the youngest bombing victim, 8-year-old martin richard. about 1,000 people turned out for a candlelight vigil where ministers offered prayers and neighbors offered support. >> almost become speechless because you don't know what to say. you think of this over and over again, where there are children involve, we all have children or grandchildren or something like that, it's important that every one of us be here tonight and show how we are here to help the family ha needs help at this time. >> hundreds of people also gathered at boston common last night and they spontaneously sang "amazing grace" and the star spang led banner. we are going to talk more about the victims of this tragedy and the heroes right after this break.

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the stories of the community coming together are helping boston and the rest of us deal with this tragedy. case in point, kevin cullen gotten e-mail from his nephew serving in afghanistan. he sent this picture and asked kevin to tell bostonians he has reenlisted. says kevin, our enemies at home and abroad have been warned. kevin cullen joins me now. it's amazing to me everywhere that people want to raech out and do something for your city. >> absolutely. case in point, my nephew is a squad leader of this third infantry group and those guys are really and probably one of the most dangerous places in the world right now and their

immediate reaction when they heard about what happened in boston, the whole unit, not just my nephew, but all the kids under his command, what can we do, what can we do? i felt saying just the opposite. i want to send these guys care packages and they want to send us stuff. >> governor deval patrick has talked about this, too, about his visit with one of the victims of the bombing. here's part of what he had to say. we don't have it. well, what he was talking about was that how many veterans and current military who rush to the aid and i know you've spent a lot of the time over the last couple of days going and talking to these first responders and their stories are incredible. >> funny, chris, i wrapped up a segment with you guys on msnbc last night, then i was on deadline for my newspaper and i ran two blocks down here down berkeley street, hung a right on columbus and went into the

district 4 fire station there because the guys there from engine 7 and tower lad 17 were among the first responders and a number of those guys are veterans. it's weird. i don't know if you saw the column today -- >> i did. >> they didn't want me to put their names in the paper and so an eddie kelly, the head of the union came with me. he's on ladder 17. he just wanted people to know these guys don't want credit. as they said, they did their job. but their job is to run at bombs. and to run towards danger. and one of the first responders i know, he's been on the job for eight years and he did three combat tours in both iraq and afghanistan. and he's been treated for ptsd. when he came back from his last tour and i asked him, i go, are you going to need treatment again, he goes, probably. but they dove right in there and i mean, it wasn't just firefighters. there were 100 cops around down there and frankly, a lot of the cops who ran in there first were women because a lot of the women

from the district 4 police station were stationed there at the finish line and i saw two of them walking down newberry street yesterday and i knew one of the girls and i said, how are you doing? she goes, i'm fine, i'm fine, but i really worry about those kids because they saw things that no one should see. but i was almost in tears watching what they did because whatever forces of evil and darkness led somebody to put bombs there and hurt people -- >> can i interrupt you for one second? janua janet napolitano is talking about boston! continue to urge the american public to remain vigilant and report signs of suspicious activity to local law enforcement. we thank the people of boston for their response. we stand in solidarity with them and with everyone who has been making sure that the response,

the recovery and the investigation continue full force. beyond that, mr. chairman, i think i should not say anything in an unclassified setting, except to reassure the committee that dhs is putting full force into providing the fbi with any and all assistance it requires in addition to a number of other things with the city of boston. >> department of homeland security among the many folks who have come here, but what's interesting and you were talking about the first responders doing what they needed to do and i don't know about you, but i was so moved when i saw the picture of a field full of people last night to honor that little 8-year-old who really has become a symbol around the world because he had this message of peace out there. what an extraordinary little boy. >> they were supposed to have it at st. ann's church, but father conner, sean conner, figured out

very early on that they were not going to have enough room, so they moved to the playground. there were thousands of people there. it was very moving. the guys on engine 7, four guys on the truck knew the family. one of them, his daughter was in third grade with young martin. and he was, he had to work on the kid. so you can imagine what was going through his head. another, the chauffeur of engine 7, his daughter is a babysitter of martin. and then the lieutenant on the truck, his kid is in grade with one of the richard kids, so they weren't just working on some people. they were working on their friends and their neighbors and like i said, i can't say enough about the firefighters, the police officers, the ems workers and if you look at the pictures, chris, there were ordinary

civilians right alongside of them and i said to one of these firefighters, aren't you guy trained to say when a civilian shows up, you aren't supposed to be here? he said that went out the window. there was a picture on the front of the globe. you could see the guy's tattoos. he was a marine and he was there holding a tourniquet on a leg of a young woman and he saved her life. >> a lot of lives save and a lot of stories of heroism. we'll be right back. can become major victories. i'm phil mickelson, pro golfer. when i was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis, my rheumatologist prescribed enbrel for my pain and stiffness, and to help stop joint damage. [ male announcer ] enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, nervous system and blood disorders, and allergic reactions have occurred. before starting enbrel, your doctor should test you for tuberculosis

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what's in your wallet? [ crows ] now where's the snooze button? welcome back. live in boston. officials are back at one of the primary bombing sites this morning, just blocks from where i'm sitting. about 30 minutes ago, we saw them combing through the scene and also on the rooftops on awnings and we're learning that the massachusetts national guard is scaling back its support to state and local authorities today. meantime, for the first time, secretary of state john kerry is talking about the bombings at the boston marathon. he's on capitol hill this hour testifying. kerry is a former senator from massachusetts who says he knows one of the injured. >> i've talked this week with friends and family up there as recently as this morning and the

granddaughter of a very, very close supporter and friend of mine through all of my political career is fighting to keep both of her legs. the, you know, boston is not going to be intimidated by this. >> in the wake of the boston terror bombings, jittery new york city residents have called in reports of more than 130 suspicious packages, nearly seven times normal. former new york city mayor rudy giuliani is surprised we've avoided another terror attack until now. >> nobody could have possibly predicted that on september 12th, you know, 2001, that this would be you know, the first attack now. having said that, that is absolutely no solace to anyone who's lost an arm, a leg, a child, my goodness. it shouldn't happen. we should be able to prevent it. >> i want to bring in former new york governor george pataki, who served during and after 9/11. good morning.

>> good morning, chris. >> are you surprised the mayor said we've been able to avoid another terror attack this long? >> i'm not really surprised. you just can't predict the future. you know that after september 11th, it's a new world and in the 21st century, there are going to be those incidents. we did have another attack. we had the attack on ft. hood, where way too many of our brave men and women in the military were murdered in what i believe was a terrorist incident, but this is different. this is public. it's truly tragic and our heart goes out obviously to all of those who have suffered as a consequence. >> let me play for you what senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said. >> i think it's safe to say that for many, the complacency that prevailed prior to september the 11th, has actually returned. >> do you think america's gotten complacent? >> no, i don't believe so.

i think we have been village lent. we have been proactive. you can always do more, but i think this is a different country after september 11th and it's a safer country because of the steps that have been taken. i know you were just talking about how new yorkers called in over 100 suspicious packages. that's something that has continued since september 11th. where we began a program if you see something, say something and new yorkers have been vigilant about that and i'm sure others in the country have as well, but it's a different world. we're an open society, a free society. we take tremendous pride in our freedom and the liberties this country gives us and that makes us vulnerable and you have to try to strike the appropriate balance to protect us and yet allow us to have that confidence and freedom to do, to live the lives we see fit. >> well, there are literally do millions of these soft targets.

over the last couple of day, we've been hearing interviews with nervous americans. they say they don't want to go to places where big crowds are gathering. are there more things that we could be doing to keep safe from these types of attacks? whether it's at sporting events or any other place where people are coming together in large numbers? >> first of all, we have the best public safety people in the world. you saw pictures right after those bombs went off. yes, people were running from the scene, but you see the emts, the first responders and just civilians running to the site. and that is the strongest line of defense. yes, we have a department of homeland security and the fbi, but people are first responders across the country and citizens are just vigilant and observant notifying them of something they see is suspicious. when you think about the freedom of this country, 320 million somewhat people living lives that people in the rest of the

world only dream of, we should take pride in that freedom, take pride in that safety, in the steps that have been taken, but understand in the 21st century, there are always going to be these risks. >> former new york state governor, george pataki, it is always good to see you. >> thank you. nice being with you. >> we got an update this morning on those swrired in the attack. of the 176 hospitaled, 69 are still in six area hospitals, all of them within a mile and a half radius. a 9-year-old girl and a 10-year-old boy are among 19 victims still listed in critical condition. the "today" show spoke with the doctor and father of 11-year-old aaron haern. >> he's doing a lot better. he's been through a lot. he actually a couple of times yesterday, he opened his eyes.

>> we drill for this. we drill over and over again and we had assembled a great crew down in the emergency department ready and waiting to receive the kids we thought we would get, but when the kids arrived, it have a tough moment. >> i'm joined by the chief of trauma surgery at massachusetts general hospital and let me just start by saying how impressed we've all been at the extraordinary work that have been done by the medical professionals here in boston and i'm wondering if you can update us in your hospital for those who still have serious challenges, what kinds of challenges are we talking about? >> thank you and let me extend my sympathy and my thoughts and prayers to the families that lost their members and those that have members in the hospital still sick. we have still 11 patients in the hospital and eight of them are still in critical condition.

they are doing much better than yesterday. but we still, we're doing operations, repeat operations on some of them. one more is being taken back to the operating room today. over all, the situation looked good. i would think and still remain extremely optimal about the final outcome, but the patients are not out of the woods yet. >> we mentioned that the patient rs at six different hospitals. all of them within a mile and a half and these are high level trauma hospitals and we've talked a lot about the quick response by emts who were already there. but also others who just pitched in. can you talk about what a difference that made, both the quick response on the scene and the ability to get the patients so quickly to these high level trauma centers, doctor. >> it was an amazing response, particularly by our prehospital providers. i am extremely proud by the way

they responded to this catastrophe. they had the ability to be on the scene immediately. three hours appropriately. those patients that needed care immediately to the trauma centers that have the highest capacity of providing such care. and then they focused their efforts into bringing this patients very quickly. all this rapid response really made the difference. i am convinced that many more patients would have died of bleeding if our providers had not responded that rapidly. >> of course, this is what all of you train for. it's not something that you're unused to except this has been repeatedly described as a war zone more than anything you would normally see. in any even urban hospital. is there something that sticks with you or i don't know how are

you doing? how are you sort of just processing what you've seen and what you've had to deal with? >> i'm doing well. and i know for a fact that my trauma team is doing well, too. as you correctly mentioned, we are trained to take care of patients with devastating injuries. obviously, it takes a completely different emotional toll on everybody when this patients are our fellow citizens in a large scale. when you see them suffering and when you see their families suffering. never the less, we focus, we focus on the task at hand, which is to save their lives right now and everything else can follow. >> chief of trauma surgery at massachusetts general hospital, again, thank you and thanks to everyone on your staff for all the great work you've been doing. >> thank you. >> meantime, cities literally around the world are beefing up security ahead of some major

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2009. christmas day bomber, hurricane sandy and the cyber threat and now, the boston attack, it's easy to become concerned with this budget request. >> under the president's new budget, the department of homeland security's hospital preparedness program would take a $120 million hit. a cut of 32%. i want to bring in dr. redliner, director of the national center of preparedness. the hospitals here in boston have been credited with their quick, coordinated response, how it saved lives and let me just play devil's advocate, which isn't an enviable position. when they observe these cuts, some might suggest they just need to be more efficient. what would you say to them? >> i think first of all, it was a remarkable response by the boston medical community both on the scene and in the hospitals. in addition to that, the citizen reaction. all fantastic.

the problem is as you indicate though there are enormous cuts in store for our hospital prepa preparedness program nationally. as a matter of fact, also major cuts that have been instituted or proposed in the general preparedness dollars going for the federal government to help the states be ready for in and all types of disasters and don't forget, we're now on the verge of the 2013 hurricane season, which is supposed to be potentially very, very dangerous with lots of severe storms predicted and we have an avian flu getting organized in china, so unfortunately, the reality of our world is that we need to remain vigilant and prepared and that requires money. we are really quite concerned that the proposed budget cuts on the hospital side and the general preparedness dollars for homeland security in states and cities is being severely cut back in ways that i think are not tolerable and i think we need to make sure our lawmakers

take another look at those proposals. >> tell them what these dollars do. what do they pay for? >> on the hospital side, a lot of the highly coordinated, incredibly appropriate responses by the medical teams in boston were based on years of preparing and post 9/11 dollars, resources, that are needed by hospitals across the country to get ready for just this kind of event. so it didn't just happen spontaneously. we have a lot of very competent people who have been trained and hospitals that have been appropriately resourced in order to be able to mound a response like this. as we cut back funds, we don't want to lose ground in terms of all the work that's been done preparing our health and hospital systems to this point after 9/11. so, we really have to focus on this. and as far as the rest of the money being cut back say from the homeland security budgets and the fema budgets, we have to make sure that we're not cutting

back to a point where we're going to endanger ourselves and our systems that have gotten reas reasonably good now but because the budget crisis, we're facing some potential problems here. >> doctor, i hope you'll come back and we'll talk more about this as we get closer to some of these debates and votes on the budget. thanks so much for coming on today. today's tweet of the day comes from the boston police department. quote, during a shift change, a bpd supervisor told officers when you get home tonight, hug your kids once, and then hug them again. that's an order.

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margaret thatcher was remembered for the 11 years she led britain, more than 2,000 guests attended her funeral including the queen and david cameron.

i'm joined by martin bashir here on msnbc and from what i can see earlier this morning, in addition to all that security, a lot of americans were there to honor margaret thatcher. >> they were a lot of americans. the president's official delegation was led by george schultz and by james baker, both of whom were secretaries of state during her premiership and speaker boehner had sent a delegation of representatives, marcia blackburn and george holding. also present was former vice president, dick cheney. who was very fortunate to be hosted by the prime minister david cameron at a private dinner last night in number 10 downing street just down the road from here. the bishop of london's sermon emphasized margaret thatcher's great personal faith stemming

from her childhood. her father was not only a local c counselor, but a methodist lay preacher, so it was a very moving service. >> meantime, the london marathon is scheduled for this weekend. what are you seeing in the wake of what happened here in boston? >> well, the head of the metropolitian police in london has said he has reviewed all the security arrangements. it's interesting that boston's marathon is so much older than lonsen's something people chuckle over here because london will so much older as a city, but the marathon will be run by about 40,000 people here. security arrangements will be tight. but there's a feeling that britain needs to stand with america against this terrorist threat and so, there's a feeling that the marathon should go ahead and it will do with enhanced security. >> martin bashir, thank you so much and of course, you can watch martin weekdays at 4:00

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